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How To Draw Unguligrade Bipeds: Advanced Course by The13thBlackCat How To Draw Unguligrade Bipeds: Advanced Course by The13thBlackCat
Subtitle: Now with 20% less art and 30% more words!

On a more serious note, this is my follow-up to my ridiculously (no, I'm serious, it's ridiculous) popular tutorial, How To Draw Unguligrade Bipeds (IE: Hoofed People), dealing more with bone structure and posing. (And a bonus on the structure of cloven hooves; I didn't include one on solid hooves because you can find solid hoof tutorials much more easily than cloven hoof ones.) I know I kind of crapped out towards the end, but that's mostly because I had no idea what to talk about anymore.

So, if there's something else you'd like me to add, just ask!

Another thing: in the process of finding information for this, I came across the blog of a sculptor; specifically, the post where he worked on a satyr's legs in one of his sculptures. It's here, and I highly recommend it, because he briefly goes into muscle anatomy and in general knows a great deal more about this than I do. Anyway, the sculpture is beautiful and definitely needs to be seen.
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Kissme123lal Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
S'CUSE ME,
But how do you draw the booty? xD
I am serious btw
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The13thBlackCat Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Pfft haha, wow, wasn't expecting to get that question. XD

Well, I mean, it's not like it would be any different than it would for normal human people, going by my design anyway. And I'm not the best person to ask on that, honestly; it's pretty hit-and-miss for me. XD I bet there's some anatomy tutorials around on this site that might help, though. I've had a lot of luck finding those before!

Sorry I'm not more help! D:
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Kissme123lal Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Haha, that's ok XD
It is still at help,
the tutorial is great x3
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KVDude13 Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
This'll be useful, thanks.
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The13thBlackCat Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hope it helps! :)
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The-Fianna Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hey, I'd just like to make a note that cloven hooves are not hard all the way around- they too have a frog like horses. 
cdn2.arkive.org/media/A7/A71EE…
Even the dew claws/hooves have tiny little frogs on them haha
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The13thBlackCat Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah, ha, I know that now. Had a chance to examine a deer hoof. I just haven't gotten around to updating this sucker because between the two there's a handful of little errors I need to fix. XD
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Jeloonek Featured By Owner May 22, 2014
this is very helpful but i need more sketches :d ^^
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sarah-is-mythical Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
This is extremely helpful, thanks so much!! I was trying (and failing) at drawing a fursona that had deer hooves and now I know what I did wrong.
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The13thBlackCat Featured By Owner May 2, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Happy to help! :D
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VoxelBlock Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I found this and your other Unguligrade biped tutorial incredibly helpful! Thanks!:P
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The13thBlackCat Featured By Owner Apr 24, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'm happy to hear that, I hope it's useful in your future arting endeavors. =D
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Erradox Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2014  Student General Artist
one of my favorite zoomorphic characteristics! Thank you so much for these tutorials~ <3 
They really help a lot! 
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The13thBlackCat Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It's definitely my favorite! :dummy: Hooves are just the absolute best!

Happy to help out, good luck with your future arting endeavors. :3
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KirigamiRiguya Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2013  Hobbyist Filmographer
!!! ah, thank you, this is super helpful!
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The13thBlackCat Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Glad to help! :3
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SomnolentAnimator Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2013  Student Filmographer
Oh my god thank you sO MUCH.
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pUrpLeICEcrYstaLs Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Just a fun fact: According to some people, humans used to walk on their toes, which I find really weird, because it would be even harder for a two-legged creature to balance on a few inches of their feet. But then, it would be easier to start running. 
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The13thBlackCat Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It would be weird and difficult, unless our heel was set higher up to compensate. I've never heard that before, huh. Of course I basically only do research on animal evolution and history, haha. =P
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Astrolade Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Could someone wear heel-less heels to test out that range of motion you mentioned towards the end? I've sort of noticed that they somewhat resemble the hooves of a horse :V and it seems like it would be the same as standing on your tip toes for who knows how long.
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The13thBlackCat Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I think I covered this somewhere in one tutorial or another, but in my understanding, heeled shoes are basically the same as standing on your toes, which is pretty much exactly what hooved things do. So heel-less heels really just cut out the middleman. :P Of course, you'd have to shift the heel upwards for the hoofed person, and they would obviously be much better at standing on their toes all day than we would, but for getting a sense of their range of motion it's probably a good start. :) That's more-or-less how I do it anyway.
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iBurrito Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
This is really helpful! I've been looking for a tutorial of this kind for some time now and I'm glad to have finally found one ;D Thank you for making this.
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The13thBlackCat Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Glad to help. :3
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Jadreamervundreuna Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I am seriously impressed by both tutorials. I usually draw bipedal cats though. But goats are more similar to cats than humans are so this helped heaps. Thanks!
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The13thBlackCat Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Glad to help. :) It's really not much different for cats and such artistically, you just have to draw paws instead of hooves. There's probably a lot more tutorials about drawing bipedal things with paws, but I don't know of any off the top of my head.
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admiral-sailboat Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2013
Oh wow thus was helpful! Like, incredibly helpful! But if you don't mind me asking, could you maybe enlighten me on the tapir hooves? Mainly because they're not as common.
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Arachnakid Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2013  Student Writer
Excellent! And this is extra useful, since the character I'm working on is (mostly) based on a deer! :D
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X-InkSplashy Featured By Owner May 6, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
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darchala Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2013
Thank you! I was pretty confident about the overall leg structure when drawing hoofed beasties, but something about the hooves themselves seemed off, and now I know what it was--I wasn't giving them enough toe leading up to the hoof. Derp.

Splendid reference!
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The13thBlackCat Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Glad to help! Your art is absolutely gorgeous, by the way, so I'm pretty much going to dA-stalk you for...pretty much ever, now. Hope that's cool. 8D
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darchala Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2013
D'aww, shucks. :blush:
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Ludra-Jenova Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2013  Professional General Artist
Oh thank you!!! this will be VERY USEFUL for me!!!
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The13thBlackCat Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Glad I could help! :3
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Ludra-Jenova Featured By Owner May 22, 2013  Professional General Artist
YAYS!!!!! :iconmecutelove:
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PureBloodxTomBoy Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2013   General Artist
Thanks for sharing both tuts, they're really informative, direct and helpful! I've always enjoyed the curious appearance of "hoofed people".:XD: I learned a lot and both of your tutorials were a joy to read.
Thanks again~:iconyea-plz:
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The13thBlackCat Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'm glad I could help! :D
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M-Lee08 Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
This is super handy to see the differences in the feet.
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The13thBlackCat Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Glad to help :3
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DOCNFOID Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
This is very informative, it also is annoying to me when people don't draw unguligrade legs looking...well..right, I guess. You have those pole-straight legs when laying down, or tiny tiny calves. That sculpt is great, I'll have to take a look later.

If you find yourself with a bit of time, I was hoping you could take a look at a couple of concepts I've done for my original species. As a talented speculative artist, I would value your input. No obligations, however, as I said, only if you have some time and feel like it.

[link]

This one is more digitigrade, but here [link]

I also have some other drawings of digitigrade species but I'm not as concerned about them at the moment, you can find them in the gallery if you want, though.
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The13thBlackCat Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I wouldn't mind taking a look, sure.

The first one--Atama--looks like the legs are too far back to me, and like she would be off-balance most of the time. I'd rotate her thighs forward a little and straighten out her heel to make her look more balanced, personally. Or, if you really want her legs to have a strongly curved look, then her upper body should be thrown back more to visually balance her and make it look like she can walk without constantly being on the verge of toppling over.

The second one--the female Orubian--looks quite nice to me, and I can't see anything about her that looks off. She seems nicely balanced physically, and her anatomy is believable to me. And incidentally, I really like her design. =P
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DOCNFOID Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Also, what the hell is the guy in the lower right of the posing picture doing? Sniffing for treasure? XD
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The13thBlackCat Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Honestly, I have no idea. XD When I was sketching poses I didn't really think too hard about what the context was, I was just trying to make them interesting. My guess would be he got knocked on his chest and is in the middle of pushing himself up, maybe? XD
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DOCNFOID Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Maybe he's trying to seduce someone behind him and is just really bad at it and ends up just being weird?
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The13thBlackCat Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That is always a possibility as well. A much funnier one, even.
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DOCNFOID Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Then that's the explanation we should go with.
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DOCNFOID Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I appreciate your input and time!

With Atama, I thought her legs should be a bit farther back since she's leaning slightly to the rear. You may be right though. This sketch was intended to be more of a quick study and to help me figure out some Xol'Ahim-specific clothing that would fit her legs. I also brought out the heel further to give them more leverage through the cannon for more speed since their species is intended to run and headbutt things well. I should do a naked one. And apparently, despite me looking up deer skeletons, I placed the...little claw thingies too high, but I like how they look so I'll attribute that to omg aliens. Also, she knows kung-fu. Hoof and horn kung-fu :D I'll keep what you said in mind for the next one, thanks a lot.

I'm quite happy you approve the Orubian, I'm rather pleased with myself for that, too. I should probably draw the male, too, but I admit that I like to draw sexy alien girls. I'm glad you also find it aesthetically pleasing in addition to plausible x3 I don't know if you read about them, but I did my best to make sure most of the visual aspects were not arbitrary, such as the fleshy dreadlocks. Incidentally you've inspired me to finally stop beating around the bush and do some of the diagrams I been meaning to do; for instance, they have a foot structure that has no real analogue that I know of that I wanted to draw.

Thanks again for giving me your time, I appreciate your input a lot. Let me know if you ever want mine.
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The13thBlackCat Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I actually glanced at your gallery briefly and saw what I believe was the species concept of the Xol'Ahim, and they looked very nice. I think maybe Atama's picture just had a case of awkward posing going on it in; you seem to have a good grasp of hooved biped leg anatomy. (Enough not to make me go "oh god oh god oh god fix EVERYTHING", at least. XP) The claw-thingies are dewclaws, I believe, assuming we're discussing the same thing. Anyway, that's what's awesome about designing new species; if someone's like "dude this anatomy makes no sense" you can go "uuuhhh...stfu, aliens/magic/whatever". =P I skimmed over the artist's comment on her picture and saw that about her being a martial artist. She sounds badass. :D

All this talk of designing clothing and anatomy and stuff makes me want to go back and work on my one hooved biped species...I never actually bothered to think about clothing and such for them too hard since they don't come up much in the webcomic they're a part of, but I probably should. XD

Haha, hey, I'm not judging. I draw way too many occasionally-human guys, after all, so I'm in no place to judge someone for wanting to draw lots of sexy alien girls. I don't think I looked over the artist's comments too much for her (I remember reading a bit about her foot anatomy, but not much else), but I do like that her various bits have reasons for existing. It makes my inner biologist happy.

It's no problem, I like talking about silly stuff like this, especially if the species in question is interesting. I think I'd be too shy to ask for your (or anyone's, ha) input, though, and anyway I THINK I have my only important species figured out by now...but I do appreciate the offer, and I'll keep it in mind. :3
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DOCNFOID Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh, so you did, great x3 Thanks! I'm glad that sketch passed the test then. You're right, I'll just have to work on the posing and such a bit more. And yes, I was referring to the dewclaws. I'm actually not sure what, if anything, they do. Maybe they SHOULD be lower, I don't know. But yeah, omg, aliens...speculative anatomy and biology is fun :D And yes, Atama is badass, her school of martial arts is specifically tailored to the type of superpowers she has. I also wanted to avoid that weird thing people do when a chick is muscular and fit but inexplicably has gigantic anti-gravity boobs.

So wait, you made a webcomic about a bunch of naked unicorn boys? This sounds oddly fascinating, where I find? D:

You have a biologist in you? You must have been hungry. But yes, thanks for the compliments x3 nothing wrong with sexy boys either as far as I'm concerned <<

I know the feeling, so you know, you can also ask me in notes if you don't want to do things publically. People tell me I'm good at poking holes in people's logic and stuff. But yeah, only if you're comfortable x3 I might end up posting comments on your pictures anyway.
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The13thBlackCat Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I just googled it for kicks and apparently dewclaws really serve no purpose, though in deer they can somtimes be set low enough to touch the ground (I've seen them in deer tracks anyway, so I already knew that)...still, they don't seem to help traction or anything, they're just kinda there because some animals haven't evolved to not have them yet. So I guess it doesn't matter where you put them, really. XD

Haha, I'm kind of guilty of that myself, but to be completely fair the only muscular AND boobielicious female characters I have all have succubus in their ancestry, so they're SUPPOSED to be stereotypically super-hot even when it doesn't make sense. And they're not hugely muscular anyway, just...toned. And they don't have antigrav boobs. Just...perky. XD I don't really draw women enough for it to be an issue anyway, though.

Sadly, only one naked unicorn boy, but he IS a main character and he tends to get naked (or close) as often as he can. You can find it on SmackJeeves, here: [link] I actually posted the first chapter to dA as a teaser, but that was all...after that it starts to get into things dA would get mad at me for posting. :T

Well, it was a very small biologist. And heck no there's not. The world needs more sexy, male or female or whatever. Sexy is always good, yes?

Hey, go ahead and poke holes in my stuff if you want around my gallery, that's what comments are for. XP I just get all stupid about asking people for anything, is all.
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DOCNFOID Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I was wondering about that because I was looking at pictures of the tracks...I've never seen a deer up close myself. Sounds like they're vestigial. Apparently Atama's species uses them to anchor the bottoms of their pants. Therefore, that is the purpose of their evolution.

Well, as you say, succubi aren't really beholden to that sort of logic, they can look however they want. I'm just fine with muscular, busty women, and even finer with them if they have a big, plush backside. I didn't give Atama big breasts, but I did give her a prominent rump, which is more important to me anyway <<

And I seee, being naked sounds productive. I'll check it out :3 DA is kind of funny about stuff. It always strikes me as odd that you're allowed to post stuff like people getting mutilated or eviscerated or hung from trees but god forbid you post an erection or something like that. It reminds me of that goofy movie Zardoz, the gun is good, the penis is bad XD

Oh, so just an appetizer. And yes, more sexy boys >> granted, what's sexy to some people isn't to others, but then again, that's part of what makes life worth living. What I always like is people that will find stuff they're not attracted to (say, fat women) and then talk shit about how they're horrible and should take that stuff down. I don't get the rationale behind such things. Granted, I may think stuff I find around here is goofy, but I keep it to myself.

And sure, I will poke your stuff :P I understand x3
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